Journalist, author, financial expert, and host of the Money Confidential podcast, Stefanie O’Connell, joins this episode to talk about unapologetically ambitious women going for what they want, no matter what else is happening in the world. And more broadly speaking, what it means to want to build wealth, lead, have power and a lot of ambition, and to do so as someone who isn’t a straight white, heterosexual male.

Because if women’s ambition isn’t the problem, what is?

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KEY POINTS:

• •  Why “girl power” isn’t working for women

  • The best way to ask for more (at the right place!)

  • How the pandemic brought inequities to the surface

  • “Women’s work” and the gender pay gap

  • The burden of assumed gender roles

QUOTABLES:

•  “The whole idea was we’re gonna get to equality by empowering the next generation. Now, here we are. I’m in my mid-30s. I’m looking around, and the numbers of women in leadership, in political office, as CEOs, really has not changed since we were those Take Your Daughter to Work Day girls.”

• “We’ve really reached the limits of what women can do differently. And it’s time to start holding the organizations and culture and workplaces that penalize them no matter what they do accountable.”